some profound koan insights were like a paper thin sheet of ice tonight, each time i tried to observe one my attempt only succeeded in melting it, none the less i was curious to notice them at all since i felt at the beginning of the session that my exploration of the koan was entering a stale phase, then i began to realize that “mind comes forth” is kind of a given and can be applied to any phenomena that is registered by the 5 senses plus thought and memory, so as soon as a phenomena is noticed immediately labeling and exploring it as “nowhere” can bring about some interesting feelings about the relation between space/time and self

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